Comments on: Roundcube Goes Live! http://blog.hosting365.com/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/ Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:58:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: tim mackey http://blog.hosting365.com/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-21349 tim mackey Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:25:46 +0000 http://www.hosting365.com/blog/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-21349 hi Ed. i just noticed your comment now, 8 months later! Is there an update on the new mail services? If it’s still in beta, please count me in. cheers. tim hi Ed. i just noticed your comment now, 8 months later!
Is there an update on the new mail services? If it’s still in beta, please count me in. cheers. tim

]]> By: Ed Byrne http://blog.hosting365.com/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-2586 Ed Byrne Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:50:43 +0000 http://www.hosting365.com/blog/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-2586 Hi Tim, Sorry for the late reply on this to you. We're actually building an entire new mail infrastrucutre that will blow you away when we launch it! Will most likely be start 2007, but we hope to run a beta trial before then, I can get you on that if you like? Hi Tim,

Sorry for the late reply on this to you. We’re actually building an entire new mail infrastrucutre that will blow you away when we launch it! Will most likely be start 2007, but we hope to run a beta trial before then, I can get you on that if you like?

]]> By: tim_mac http://blog.hosting365.com/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-2190 tim_mac Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:00:36 +0000 http://www.hosting365.com/blog/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-2190 hi, just following up on my question of 2 months ago regarding SSL pop3 support. has there been any progress on this? if H365 provided this then you guys really would be the ultimate hosters in my book :) T hi, just following up on my question of 2 months ago regarding SSL pop3 support. has there been any progress on this? if H365 provided this then you guys really would be the ultimate hosters in my book :)
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]]> By: Stephen http://blog.hosting365.com/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-1083 Stephen Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:56:01 +0000 http://www.hosting365.com/blog/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-1083 Hey Tim, Subscribe to http://www.hosting365status.com for an update. Hey Tim,

Subscribe to http://www.hosting365status.com for an update.

]]> By: tim_mac http://blog.hosting365.com/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-1064 tim_mac Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:48:45 +0000 http://www.hosting365.com/blog/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-1064 hi Ed, just a p.s. to my last post... outlook doesn't support APOP. it does have an option for "my server requires authentication" but this isn't anything to do with APOP and the passwords still go out in plain text. will there be a notification on when SSL pop is enabled? i'll check back here every now and then anyway. hi Ed, just a p.s. to my last post…
outlook doesn’t support APOP. it does have an option for “my server requires authentication” but this isn’t anything to do with APOP and the passwords still go out in plain text.
will there be a notification on when SSL pop is enabled? i’ll check back here every now and then anyway.

]]> By: tim_mac http://blog.hosting365.com/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-1062 tim_mac Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:07:06 +0000 http://www.hosting365.com/blog/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-1062 hi Ed, thanks for the reply and very informative answer. re: server load, i understand the extra bandwidth and processing involved with setting up a secure connection. my guess is this would be minimised by the small amount of people who would actually use SSL. i'm sure you know yourself 95% of people just want to get their emails working with minimal config, and wouldn't be worried about hackers sniffing packets etc. similarly on the second point, if someone is techie enough to want SSL email, i'm sure they won't mind using the H365 mail server name. i'll speak for myself anyway, i really wouldn't mind. i'll have a go with APOP in the meantime. cheers tim hi Ed,
thanks for the reply and very informative answer.

re: server load, i understand the extra bandwidth and processing involved with setting up a secure connection. my guess is this would be minimised by the small amount of people who would actually use SSL. i’m sure you know yourself 95% of people just want to get their emails working with minimal config, and wouldn’t be worried about hackers sniffing packets etc.
similarly on the second point, if someone is techie enough to want SSL email, i’m sure they won’t mind using the H365 mail server name. i’ll speak for myself anyway, i really wouldn’t mind.

i’ll have a go with APOP in the meantime.
cheers
tim

]]> By: Ed Byrne http://blog.hosting365.com/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-1051 Ed Byrne Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:14:15 +0000 http://www.hosting365.com/blog/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-1051 Hey Tim, I've asked Paul Kelly, our Lead Unix Engineer, and the man responsible for the mail servers (he says thanks for the compliment!). The answer he gave me is below. You'll see it is doable, soon, but not entirely straight forward. The servers already support APOP which is a secure authentication mechanism - the password is sent as a hash of a combination of the plaintext password and the timestamp the server uses in its greeting. Whilst that does protect the security of the password, the emails themselves are transmitted in plaintext. That option is disguised as "Use secure authentication" in the Server Settings options of Thunderbird. I'm sure it's similar in Outlook and other clients. We can do SSL too for end-to-end encryption with a bit of effort, but there are two complicating factors. One is the load, which will be much less of a concern when we build out the next cluster of mail server machines. However, just like a web site, we have to have one and only one SSL certificate on the server (and can't run multiple IPs/certificates). That means customers using SSL will have to use only 'mail.hosting365.ie' as their server name. Hey Tim,

I’ve asked Paul Kelly, our Lead Unix Engineer, and the man responsible for the mail servers (he says thanks for the compliment!). The answer he gave me is below. You’ll see it is doable, soon, but not entirely straight forward.

The servers already support APOP which is a secure authentication mechanism - the password is sent as a hash of a combination of the plaintext password and the timestamp the server uses in its greeting. Whilst that does protect the security of the password, the emails
themselves are transmitted in plaintext.

That option is disguised as “Use secure authentication” in the Server Settings options of Thunderbird. I’m sure it’s similar in Outlook and other clients.

We can do SSL too for end-to-end encryption with a bit of effort, but there are two complicating factors. One is the load, which will be much less of a concern when we build out the next cluster of mail server machines.

However, just like a web site, we have to have one and only one SSL certificate on the server (and can’t run multiple IPs/certificates). That means customers using SSL will have to use only ‘mail.hosting365.ie’ as their server name.

]]> By: tim_mac http://blog.hosting365.com/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-1019 tim_mac Wed, 16 Aug 2006 07:54:01 +0000 http://www.hosting365.com/blog/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-1019 hi Ed, like the blog. is there any chance your mail servers will support secure POP or some form of non-plain-text login? my wireless network is encrypted so i'm mostly safe from outside attack, but when i'm on a regular LAN it means anyone on the network segment can catch packets and read my login username and password, not exactly ideal for the year 2006 would you agree? identity theft etc etc. this would be the icing on the cake for the h365 mail services, which are excellent. cheers tim hi Ed,
like the blog. is there any chance your mail servers will support secure POP or some form of non-plain-text login? my wireless network is encrypted so i’m mostly safe from outside attack, but when i’m on a regular LAN it means anyone on the network segment can catch packets and read my login username and password, not exactly ideal for the year 2006 would you agree? identity theft etc etc.
this would be the icing on the cake for the h365 mail services, which are excellent.
cheers
tim

]]> By: Ed Byrne http://blog.hosting365.com/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-93 Ed Byrne Sat, 06 May 2006 17:29:59 +0000 http://www.hosting365.com/blog/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-93 Hi Helena, thanks for the feedback! Roubcube is BETA so hopefully they'll fix issues like this soon ... that's why we have left the options use Squirrel and Horde still there. The reason it shows you the deleted mails is because it's an IMAP client, rather than POP, so you'd have to delete them in there again unfortunately. That doesn't make it easy to switch between webmail clients, but if you do it once, and then continue to use Roundcube you should have no problem. Although if you want filters I'm afraid you'll (and I!) will have to wait for that functionality to be added. Hi Helena, thanks for the feedback!

Roubcube is BETA so hopefully they’ll fix issues like this soon … that’s why we have left the options use Squirrel and Horde still there.

The reason it shows you the deleted mails is because it’s an IMAP client, rather than POP, so you’d have to delete them in there again unfortunately. That doesn’t make it easy to switch between webmail clients, but if you do it once, and then continue to use Roundcube you should have no problem. Although if you want filters I’m afraid you’ll (and I!) will have to wait for that functionality to be added.

]]> By: Helena http://blog.hosting365.com/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-92 Helena Sat, 06 May 2006 09:16:21 +0000 http://www.hosting365.com/blog/2006/04/21/roundcube-goes-live/#comment-92 To be honest, the new mail is nice and everything, but I think it's too hard to get around. It does weird things, like show me unread mail which I've deleted, even though I know I've deleted *and* purged them in Horde, and I can't find an option to create filters.. To be honest, the new mail is nice and everything, but I think it’s too hard to get around. It does weird things, like show me unread mail which I’ve deleted, even though I know I’ve deleted *and* purged them in Horde, and I can’t find an option to create filters..

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